August 15, 2008
Posted: 840 GMT

ATLANTA, Georgia - I seem to have started something this week. 

Well, I don't think I started it - someone on our international desk did. Or that's my version and I'm sticking with it.

Anyway, it all began with the daily "International Outlook" e-mail from our international desk. It outlines what's coming up the next day, so producers, et al can plan their shows and have a rough idea what to expect.

The other day, it contained the statement "Michael Phelps has become the greatest Olympian ever."

OK, so I admit in between newscasts and the occasional war, I'm a bit of a sports nut. All sports. Too much sport is never enough. That kind of thing.

So I had to respond to the writer of that e-mail and say I thought we should be careful making a "Phelps greatest ever" statement.

Most decorated?  Indisputably. Most successful?  Sure, why not.  Greatest?  Um...big statement.

I underestimated the response! Apparently my e-mail set off a discussion "upstairs" that culminated in someone (hopefully kidding!) calling me  a "Phelps hater." Which I'm not; the guy has done amazing, extraordinary things. I think the kindest comment that filtered down to me was "Well, I guess he's entitled to his opinion..." 

I've got a thing about the Olympics and actually remember a lot of stuff I should long ago have deleted from my brain to make room for things like, oh, news facts, or my children's birthdays.

Stuff like remembering the American discus thrower, Al Oerter. He only won four gold medals - but he did it over four consecutive Games - '56, '60, '64 and '68 – in a sport where there was only one gold medal available. Now there's some durability and talent! Imagine if there'd been 100-meter, 200-meter, 250-meter discus events!  OK, don't. That'd be as boring as synchronized swimming.

Carl Lewis did the same thing as Al with the long jump ... golds in four straight Olympics! His indoor world record long jump set in 1984 still stands. Oh, and he won five other golds (and a silver) during his Olympic career.

And let's not forget the former great Soviet gymnast, Larysa Latynina  (OK, I did forget her, but a mate reminded me), who still holds the record for the most Olympic medals of any color: 18 of 'em, over three Olympics.

I'm still chest-swellingly proud of the Aussie runner Betty Cuthbert, who may have won a mere four golds, but how she did it was remarkable: The 100-meter and 200-meter in the '56 games, then coming out of retirement years later to win gold in the 400-meter at the '64 games. She remains the only person - male or female - to win Olympic gold in the 100m, 200m and 400m.

And do you have to have a fistful (chestful?) of medals to be the "greatest"?  I'm thinking Berlin 1936 and a guy named Jesse Owens.

Again, Phelps is a phenom ... what a performance!  Absolutely riveting to watch. But let's face it; he also has a bunch more races in which to win gold than even swimmers of years past, let alone other athletes. 

I hope Michael Phelps shows up in London in 2012 and goes for gold again.  Maybe even 2016. Then he could be the greatest ever - although such a title would doubtlessly still be debated in pubs and newsrooms. But for now?  "Greatest Olympian ever"?   Don't get me started. ...

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Laura   August 17th, 2008 1743 GMT

I think you make a fantastic point.

Sarah   August 18th, 2008 1224 GMT

I agree whole heartedly. Mr. Phelps is fortunate to participate in a sport that offers a plethera of medal opportunities. He is a gifted athelete and I wish him continued success. However, I believe that there are others who participate in sports with limited medal opportunties who may be more deserving of the title. Let us look to the Heptathaletes and Decathaletes who must be excellent in 7 and 10 sports respectively, or the marathoners who have just one medal opportunity. Let us broaden our criteria for "greatest" to go beyond medal count and to look at opportunity, longevity and success.

Joe   August 19th, 2008 1348 GMT

"You, sir, are the greatest athlete in the world" King Gustav V!!
Jim Thorpe!!

Kathryn   August 19th, 2008 1753 GMT

I am in awe of Michael Phelps and his accomplishments, but greatest Olympian? When I think of the greatest Olympian, I think of Jim Thorpe, who won "only" two gold medals but was still considered the greatest athlete in the world for more than a generation. So, congratulations Mr. Phelps, but there are others who are also great!

iain   August 19th, 2008 2006 GMT

These performances described are all phenomenal achievements but you really need to include Steve Redgrave in the disucssion – 5 gold medals in 5 olympics in a Rowing – a sport which required execptional physical performance and talent.

Nolan   October 13th, 2008 1425 GMT

All of you are look at only out time period. Lets not forget the Great Olmpiad Leonidas of Rhodes, he won the Trastes FOUR TIMES in a row thats quite amazing and deffinantly more astounding than Phelps.

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